Me, green

Behold! It's Zorgor.

Who is Zorgor?

What is a Zorgor?

Why ‘Zorgor’??

Where is Zorgor?

When? …is Zorgor?

The artist currently known as Zorgor also has a real name.  It’s Charlie.  Zorgor is an amateur artist and now a blogger too evidently.  Zorgor is a beginner at painting and paints for fun.  And tries not to get pretentious about it.

Charlie has a funny name — hard to spell, hard to pronounce, hard to remember — and so, not a good name for a blog.  ‘Zorgor’ is a completely made up alias (you might have guessed) but is easy to remember (I hope), easy to spell (if you remember it), and easy to pronounce.

Zorgor lives in Indianapolis, Indiana which is roughly in the middle of the United States.  I mention that because Zorgor himself is always curious about where other internet people live…

Zorgor exists solidly in the here and now, but sometimes his mind is on the distant past (ancient history or paleontology) or on the distant imagined future (he’s a science fiction fan).  Zorgor also likes astronomy, planets, and all sorts of space stuff.

my alter-avatar...

my alter-avatar...

Zorgor’s artistic style, or the lack thereof, will become apparent as soon as Zorgor has posted enough, but some of Zorgor’s favorite artists are Kandinsky, Hans Arp, Van Gogh, Mattise and his partner in Fauvism André Derain, Franz Marc, Bruce Nauman, and Roberto Matta.


30 responses to “About

  1. Nice to see a fellow artist showcasing his work here!

  2. Hey there! I saw your comment asking the question on those two photos that sold for such amazing amounts.I actually really like the Rhein II one. It might look boring (and I’ve heard that a lot, and I can understand that thought), but it takes an artistic vision to see the world the way he did in this image, and to actually compose the shot and take it. So I can appreciate that about it. And visually, I like those horizontal lines and textures. And to my eye, it’s a very relaxing scene which I like also. And as someone who misses water immensely, it appeals to me on that level too. Would I pay that much for it? No. But I wouldn’t mind it hanging in my living room either.

    On the Cindy Sherman one. I hadn’t seen that one before, but it’s interesting to my eye. I like how the floor pattern is similar to the young woman’s skirt. And the whole orange tone to it is interesting. The young woman does look a bit lost in her thoughts too, which is interesting. And the blush on her face and her fingernails being red, is this about love/sex? And the composition and perspective is interesting also. I like the image, but again pay that much for it? No. But I wouldn’t mind visiting it every once in a while in gallery. 🙂 My eye just likes to look at it.

    But this is all just from me. I’m a self taught photographer, and I don’t know all that much about photographic history (now the history of painting, okay 🙂 ). So take what I say with that in mind.

    Hope that helps. 🙂

    • Thanks, that is the kind of perspective I was looking for. 🙂 With Rhein II, the perfectly horizontal lines were the first, really the only thing I noticed. I thought that was kind of interesting; the kind of thing one might do in a painting. I guess I did do that in a painting. 🙂 You make a good point that it is relaxing. I’m further put off to learn that he digitally edited it to remove a factory and a pedestrian…

      With the Cindy Sherman, that actually is Cindy Sherman. It’s a self-portrait. To me that only adds to the psychological implications of having sold it for so much… With the blush, and the floor, and did you see the weird angle of her foot? I thought she fell and is stunned, possibly seriously injured…

      I had not realized until you pointed it out, that yeah, the colors and patterns are interesting.

      What is now the third most expensive photo ever sold is also an Andreas Gursky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Cent_II_Diptychon
      $3.3 million. It’s an elevated view of the shelves in a grocery store…

      • Hey there! 🙂 I just got back from a visit to a really wonderful abstract gallery here, and I asked the owner about Gurksy’s Rhein II. He explained that part of it is Gursky, and how he can do images like a painting. And that his works are HUGE, and that on a wall they have the same impact as a painting. He is really taken with Gursky and he saw sometime recently some of his work in New York. So I can see now why his work is worth so much.

        On Sherman’s painting, I didn’t realize that was her foot, but that her skirt was a bit tossled, which to me might indicate something sexual again. She looks like the 70’s to me here. It’s indeed interesting.

        Glad we had this conversation. 🙂

        • 1980 or ’81 with the Cindy Sherman, so yeah, practically still the 70s. 🙂

          I knew that Rhein II was huge, and I figured that was part of it. There seems to be a principle in the art world, that if you work on a huge scale, it seems you can do any old crap and get away with it. Not just this — this isn’t *that* bad. The thing with this is not so much the work as the price tag! But I’ve seen other large scale art works, abstract paintings, sculptures, etc., that just make me wonder ‘why’… All I can see is that it’s huge… Scale does impress, all by itself. I guess that’s why oceans are more impressive than ponds.

          Thanks for asking the gallery owner about that! 🙂 Yeah, it’s fun and edifying to talk about art with other artists! Differences of media don’t seem to matter. 🙂

          • I agree with you that sometimes I see pieces that are just larger and people think they’re all that, and I wonder. But I’m not all that sure on my art taste to be honest, so sometimes I wonder if it’s just me.

            And I laughed at your oceans/ponds comparison. So true, I think.

            Yep, I enjoy talking to the gallery owner. We don’t have much “real”, wait I didn’t just say that :), what I meant was contemporary art in Santa Fe, so it’s nice to talk to him, as he is really knowledgeable, and he’s nice too. 🙂 I have yet to show him my work though. We talk about great contemporary, more abstract photographers, and I’m not anywhere near that.

            And I just read your comment on my snow/gate/lines abstract from yesterday, comparing it to Rhein II. That just had me laughing. 🙂 It is similar in that I am always looking for lines and shapes and textures, which is what I like in that work. And the photo isn’t about anything really but those things. The snow made it, totally too. I have to work on such a smaller scale though. I just don’t have those big view/buildings, etc. in this town.

            As always, thanks for your comments on my work! And fun chatting. 🙂

            • Ditto! And as for taste in art, your taste is your taste, period. I firmly believe that like beauty, art is in the eye of the beholder. It’s all opinion, no “good” or “bad”, only differences.

              Do you remember Robert Mapplethorpe and the controversy his work caused? I heard Joseph Campbell explain all that once in a way that completely cut though all the BS. To paraphrase, he said that the overwhelming majority of images, particularly photographic images of people, that people today see are in advertisements. Advertisements are always trying to sell you something. So, people have become conditioned to wonder what they are being sold when they see images of people that clearly aren’t birthday party or vacation photos. So, when the public saw Mapplethorpe’s work, consumerist conditioning made them think they were being “sold” homosexuality. That’s why the public reacted so violently to it. But it’s not that way with art like that. All you’re really supposed to do, is stand in relationship to it. To consider it, maybe form an opinion of some kind. But it really isn’t trying to sell you *anything*. It’s only meant to be thought provoking.

              Anyway, I don’t know where all that came from, but I felt like sharing it. 🙂 Something about your questioning of your taste I guess. People shouldn’t question their taste I think. It is what it is. Now asking why you like what you do and don’t like what you don’t can be an amazing road of self-discovery if you stick with it, but there is no right or wrong to any of it. If you think your own taste is not good, that only means you’ve been convinced of that by someone who does not share your taste in things. Try to figure out who put that idea into your head — likely it’s someone important to you, but the most important thing is that does not make it right. And this is my official opinion of “taste” as an artist. Zorgor has spoken! 🙂

              And all this is why I started asking about Rhein II and Cindy Sherman — I didn’t know what to think. I was looking for some opinions. 🙂

  3. jcarlisle2622

    Hey Dude! I wasn’t sure of your home email, so I’m posting here instead. 🙂

    I just wanted to let you know that “Tim the Enchanter” is alive and well in my kitchen. Now you have an excuse to come to work on… uh… the 3rd? Yeah, the third.

    Cya man…

  4. hey zorgor (charlie)!!! thanks so much for checking out my blog and for the wonderful comments! can’t wait to see your paintings of faces.
    maybe we could start a 30 days to keep the juices flowing!
    thanks again!!!!

    • Thanks! But I really don’t know about a 30 day challenge… I paint really slowly, and don’t have as much time to devote to it as I’d like either… 🙂

  5. Hey there,

    You commented on my blog that you have used one of my photos as inspiration and I’ve already seen the work. Huh? 🙂 Which one? I like to keep tabs on photos of mine that are being used as inspiration. Thanks! And hope you’re having a great weekend!

  6. TLS

    Hey there zorgor.
    Just dropped by to say that I love your work!
    And this ‘About’ post amused me greatly.. So much more interesting than the usual ones.
    Best wishes,

  7. TLS

    I’ve nominated you for two awards; The Versatile Blogger and The Kreative Blogger awards! If you’d like to read why I chose you, and pass it on to your own favourite blogs, please go to http://holdyourownknowyourname.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/versatility-and-creativity-awards/! Congratulations! 🙂

  8. hello Zorgor, i’d like to begin with “no pressure!” but when i saw abstract art in your gravatar card I knew that this was my chance to finally give abstract art a fair chance…often the busyness/oddness/unsymmetrical aspect of it unsettles me but I feel I’m missing out sorely in truly appreciating art in all its forms…and so I’m very glad to have found your blog =) Take care, Que.

    • Hey Que! I’m flattered that you chose my humble blog to check out abstract art. 🙂 It is often busy, odd, and unsymmetrical, especially mine, but I hope you’ll find something you like. I hope it’s not too unsettling. I like bright colors, so at least my work is not dark and moody very often… As far as appreciating art in all its forms, we like what we like and we don’t what we don’t and that’s just the way it is. Asking why in either case can be a road of self-discovery, if you choose to walk it.

      So yeah, no pressure! 🙂 I would love to hear anything my work makes you think of, looks like, or brings to mind. Most of it is really not even supposed to be anything, so there are really no wrong opinions! 🙂 Thanks for stopping by!

  9. alanmorsedavies

    Hi, I would like to use Rorschach 12 on the cover of my next album, I love it, it’s a Creative Commons release so no cash for either of us. Let me know if that’s OK for you. Google “Alan Morse Davies” or go to
    http://www.youtube.com/stuffedspacedog, http://alanmorsedavies.wordpress.com/

    • Thank you, I’m flattered. I had to think about this for a while, then I forgot about it for a while, but then I remembered and am intrigued. I was going to ask what it involves, having never done anything like this before, but if the album you’re referring to is “Hum 3+9 Copies”, it looks like I’ve missed the boat.

      But thanks for the offer and I’m glad you liked the painting! 🙂

  10. alanmorsedavies

    No, the next album is “Deirdre, Ethel & Phyllis”,sound portraits of semi-fictional dead Great Aunts. I’m aiming for a May release,

  11. What have you been up to? My blog is not the same without your comments! I’ve got a new design and a new look and would love to hear what you think about it! Visit sometime soon if you can!
    Hope all is well!
    From allrainydaysarentgray

    • Long time no see! 🙂 Are you not on wordpress.com anymore? Just visited, and the new look is nice and clean, but I’m not logged in already to comment? Are you hosting wordpress yourself now? Hope all is well with you too!

  12. Hi Zorgor. It’s been so long since we’ve seen a post from you. I hope you’re alright and that we’ll hear from you soon. I miss your paintings!

    • Hi yourself! I am still alive. 🙂 Just haven’t felt like painting or blogging in… well, this year. Is this blog dead then? I don’t know. I keep asking myself that very question… I have had some ideas for paintings, just not enough motivation… Thanks for saying hi! 🙂

      • Hey Zorgor…just wanted to say hi and actually miss you too! Have just been used to getting such a dash of colour and vibrancy this past year that I’ve been missing it…but of course everyone moves on…I hope whatever new venture you have encountered gives you much happiness and inspiration as your paintings have given to your followers =) Take care

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